tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post114650581912518985..comments2023-09-27T09:56:45.943-04:00Comments on The Burr in the Burgh: Review: United 93Pastor Scott Stiegemeyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16673629123931502344noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1146596795756762982006-05-02T15:06:00.000-04:002006-05-02T15:06:00.000-04:00Hi all,Just a note to point out that the byline fo...Hi all,<BR/>Just a note to point out that the byline for this review is not mine. It's written by a friend, Darren Eliker.Pastor Scott Stiegemeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16673629123931502344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1146575977944149732006-05-02T09:19:00.000-04:002006-05-02T09:19:00.000-04:00Scott, Thanks for the thoughful review.BTW, how f...Scott,<BR/> Thanks for the thoughful review.<BR/>BTW, how far away do you live from<BR/>the crash site?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1146531315968078362006-05-01T20:55:00.000-04:002006-05-01T20:55:00.000-04:00Anonymous,I think you forget one other possibility...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>I think you forget one other possibility- they thought they would save lives on the ground. They did know of the Towers and Pentagon. They knew what the mission of the terrorists was. You can't discount or "notch" the heroism of those who died trying to save others- you can't know their motivation. If you fight for the defense of your country when attacked, and fight for those who cannot, then you are a hero. If you bat a 1000 or win a grammy, you are not a hero (sorry Hollywood). Its that simple. There is no notches for bravery- only the brave and everyone else.<BR/><BR/>As a post note, the medal for those considered most brave in the military is the Congressional Medal of Honor. It's also awarded often posthumously.<BR/><BR/>VirginiaLutheransVirginiaLutheranshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01102531413899821654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1146526855458012422006-05-01T19:40:00.000-04:002006-05-01T19:40:00.000-04:00Based on incidences in airplanes since then, I'd s...Based on incidences in airplanes since then, I'd say that passengers are willing to act more quickly than before 9/11 to someone trying to take over or crash the flight. <BR/><BR/>In at least one case, the disruptive person was killed by the passengers (justified as self defense, IMO). <BR/><BR/>Some reported incidences have involved people who may have had reactions to (or lack of) medications. This is unfortunate, but given the potential consequences of threatening actions at 35,000 feet, anyone who exhibits such violent actions (not just words), may experience an abrupt change in vital signs administered forcefully by other passengers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1146520301739167442006-05-01T17:51:00.000-04:002006-05-01T17:51:00.000-04:00Great review, pastor ... it is indeed heartening t...Great review, pastor ... it is indeed heartening that this powerful had such a strong showing, and if it had been showing on as many screens as the crapfast known as RV, perhaps would have finished on top instead of a strong secondReel Fanatichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09727636643227938924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1146515544852394972006-05-01T16:32:00.000-04:002006-05-01T16:32:00.000-04:00Haven't seen the movie and don't know if I will, b...Haven't seen the movie and don't know if I will, but the one thing that has stayed with me since this has happened is that everyone seems to forget there was a strong possibility the passengers thought they'd be able to save themselves. <BR/><BR/>It's documented that the passengers thought they had enough force to overtake the cockpit and thought they had someone who might be able to fly the plane if they were successful in overcoming the terrorists.<BR/><BR/>Ultimately they couldn't and didn't which is the tragedy.<BR/><BR/>Given the information they had about the other hijacked planes, what is it that they did that you or anyone else wouldn't do in the same situation? And if it were you, would you want to be remembered as a hero or as somebody who just did the logical thing? After all, if they had done nothing, knowing what they knew, they wouldn't be victims, they'd be accessories to murder.<BR/><BR/>When you have a choice as to whether or not to save someone and possibly die doing so - that's the heroism that needs celebration.<BR/><BR/>So no disrespect to the families intended, but as far as "heroes" go, the NYPD/NYFD and others who died selflessly trying to save other people are at the top of that list. <BR/><BR/>Airline passengers who thought they might save their own lives are a notch below, even if it makes for a compelling story.<BR/><BR/>I'm keeping this post anonymous because this is an unpopular opinion especially in PA, despite the fact that it is certainly reasoned and logical if you allow yourself to think beyond knee-jerk emotional reactions. <BR/><BR/>I'd like to see as much, if not more, attention paid to the rescue operations on the ground at the WTC - the minute to minute decisions being made, the logistics of the planned rescues, the emotions of the teams that lost colleagues, the follow up five years later. That's the movie I'd like to see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com