tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post112248610331762816..comments2023-09-27T09:56:45.943-04:00Comments on The Burr in the Burgh: Meditations in Tombstone (Arizona)Pastor Scott Stiegemeyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16673629123931502344noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1124161033518525852005-08-15T22:57:00.000-04:002005-08-15T22:57:00.000-04:00Tombstone is partly good for the camaraderie in it...Tombstone is partly good for the camaraderie in it.<BR/><BR/>I've been to old Tombstone, too.<BR/><BR/>My dad and I had a picture taken at Billy Clanton's grave. My dad's mother's family ranched with the Clantons and were convinced the Clantons had been murdered.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1122640310497971762005-07-29T08:31:00.000-04:002005-07-29T08:31:00.000-04:00If you want a bad western check out Wyatt Earp.If you want a bad western check out Wyatt Earp.JMFjrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00371900336816586414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1122609063310443082005-07-28T23:51:00.000-04:002005-07-28T23:51:00.000-04:00Lisa,I stand corrected. And I'm delighted to see ...Lisa,<BR/>I stand corrected. And I'm delighted to see someone actually write pfft.Pastor Scott Stiegemeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16673629123931502344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1122590236688866872005-07-28T18:37:00.000-04:002005-07-28T18:37:00.000-04:00" And I have to admit that last year's Open Range ..." And I have to admit that last year's Open Range with Robert Duvall and K. Costner was pretty good, though the romantic subplot should've been left on the cutting room floor."<BR/><BR/>Pfft. Men! That was a great movie, subplot and all.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14482723497287290855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1122585781729783962005-07-28T17:23:00.000-04:002005-07-28T17:23:00.000-04:00So Pr. Petersen doesn't like my choices of Westwor...So Pr. Petersen doesn't like my choices of Westworld and Oklahoma. I guess I won't even bother mentioning City Slickers or Blazing Saddles then. Actually, all kidding aside, if I HAD to vote for a number 1, I'd pick The Magnificent Seven. Sorry, but no one does it better than Steve McQueen, Yul Brynner, and James Coburn. I did like Unforgiven a lot too. And I have to admit that last year's Open Range with Robert Duvall and K. Costner was pretty good, though the romantic subplot should've been left on the cutting room floor.Pastor Scott Stiegemeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16673629123931502344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1122575582979698292005-07-28T14:33:00.000-04:002005-07-28T14:33:00.000-04:00[b][i]Westworld and Oklahoma!!!![/b][/i]I can resp...[b][i]Westworld and Oklahoma!!!![/b][/i]<BR/><BR/>I can respect the opinion that [i]Unforgiven[/i]is the best Western ever, even if it isn't; because it is second. I can even tolerate all the other films so far listed here (except maybe Darrel's claim to prefer the tedious [i]Wyatt Earp[/i] to [i]Tombstone[/i]) but to list [i]Westworld[/i] and [i]Oklahoma[/i] is just foolish talk.<BR/><BR/>I have to warn you: this is going to add years to your time in purgatory. And what will purgatory be? Endless performances of [i]Oklahoma.[/i] Or maybe that is Hell. I can't remember. It might be [i]Westworld[/i] in purgatory.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of [i]Purgatory,[/i] that was a good Western!Petersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12953264105046882429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1122572890326179482005-07-28T13:48:00.000-04:002005-07-28T13:48:00.000-04:00Petersen: Unforgiven? The Outlaw Josey Wales? All...Petersen: <I>Unforgiven? The Outlaw Josey Wales? All good, to be sure, but Tombstone is the ultimate Western. </I><BR/><BR/>Whoa, whoa, whooooa, little buckaroo! Yer talkin' heresy, there, pardner. <I>Unforgiven</I> is the best western ever made, and I'm happy to provide you with a <A HREF="http://filmgeeks.blogspot.com/2005/05/film-geeks-required-viewing-unforgiven.html" REL="nofollow">rambling essay</A> that proves it! ;)<BR/><BR/>I wasn't a fan of <I>Tombstone</I>, which puts me in the smallest of minorities. I actually prefer <I>Wyatt Earp</I>, and Dennis Quaid's version of Doc Holiday, which was much more historically accurate. I'll accept that I'm in the minority there... but I'll argue the merets of <I>Unforgiven</I> till I'm blue in the face. Little doggie.Darrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17464995125248198751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1122570389229507652005-07-28T13:06:00.000-04:002005-07-28T13:06:00.000-04:00I'm fascinated with Tombstone as well (even though...I'm fascinated with Tombstone as well (even though there was often a thin line between the "good guys" and the "bad guys"), and Arizona in general. I've been travelling there since the mid-1970s. It's probably the sinful nature in us that attract us to them.Bob Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850876086303012348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1122561006428714992005-07-28T10:30:00.000-04:002005-07-28T10:30:00.000-04:00I love Westerns and have been to Old Tuscon too (b...I love Westerns and have been to <A HREF="http://www.oldtucson.com/general/general.htm" REL="nofollow">Old Tuscon</A> too (back in 1987)! Did you go the the <A HREF="http://www.sanxaviermission.org/" REL="nofollow">San Xavier del Bac Mission</A> and the <A HREF="http://www.desertmuseum.org/" REL="nofollow">Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum</A>, both nearby?<BR/><BR/>I think the draw is nostalgia for the bygone days when men were men and women were women. Lisa is right too. It's kind of like war movies where people are willing to give their life for a cause. My all time favorite Western is <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0792106989/103-9617422-2586204?v=glance" REL="nofollow">The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)</A> starring Jimmy Stewart, my all time favorite actor.Erich Heidenreich, DDShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12819223688598369327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1122545147468689712005-07-28T06:05:00.000-04:002005-07-28T06:05:00.000-04:00These men stood for something at all costs, no apo...These men stood for something at all costs, no apologies..even until "no Les no more". I think we crave this in our society. The fact that these men often stood for ornery things makes it ok for us to admire them without seeming too pollyanna-ish.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14482723497287290855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1122526221710852742005-07-28T00:50:00.000-04:002005-07-28T00:50:00.000-04:00Hmmmm... How to respond?? [In a winsome though i...Hmmmm... How to respond?? [In a winsome though incredulous tone of voice, Stiegemeyer says:] I can appreciate your conviction, Compadre Petersen. But I beg to diff. Tombstone is pretty doggone good. But here are the truly great Western pictures (you philistine): The Magnificent Seven, The Searchers, High Noon, Shane, Stagecoach (1939). Oh, and Westworld. Does Oklahoma count?Pastor Scott Stiegemeyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16673629123931502344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11610171.post-1122515989472071672005-07-27T21:59:00.000-04:002005-07-27T21:59:00.000-04:00You went to Tombstone because you are an American ...You went to Tombstone because you are an American man. You don't need a reason beyond that.<BR/><BR/>As to the movie, I am in shock. Better Westerns than this one? I think not! What? True Grit? Unforgiven? The Outlaw Josey Wales? All good, to be sure, but Tombstone is the ultimate Western. <BR/><BR/>Repent! Stiegemeyer! Repent! I don't make fun of you for loving Star Wars or point out how poorly written the LOTR, now take this slander back. For these, my friend, are fighting words. Tombstone is the best Western. Period.Petersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12953264105046882429noreply@blogger.com